How's your non-Tesla Supercharger experience at busy stations going?

diallo said:
@Christopher
That’s an interesting article from 2015 about a failed initiative. Thanks for sharing!

It wasn’t a failed initiative. It was designed to maximize carbon tax credits. When California closed the loophole, the swap stations conveniently shut down.

Robert said:
@abidemi
Tesla should’ve fixed this before they opened the chargers to other brands.

Wouldn’t it be simpler if the other car companies just put the charging port in a better spot? Like Rivian is doing in their new models.

@jeff
Why should the whole industry change because one charger operator didn’t plan for this?

@abidemi
A much easier solution would just be to have longer cables.

olivia said:
@abidemi
A much easier solution would just be to have longer cables.

The short cables are V3 chargers, and they’re liquid-cooled. Extending them would require a bigger cooling system. It’s not as simple as just putting in a longer cable.

@Thomas
Well then, upgrade the cooling system. Or upgrade some stations and label them so people know which ones to use.

martin said:
@Thomas
Well then, upgrade the cooling system. Or upgrade some stations and label them so people know which ones to use.

Why not wait until V4 is fully rolled out? It’s better than trying to upgrade V3.

@Thomas
How long is that going to take? There are less than 100 V4 stations in the US. Longer cables would be a quicker solution.

olivia said:
@abidemi
A much easier solution would just be to have longer cables.

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chozen said:

olivia said:
@abidemi
A much easier solution would just be to have longer cables.

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Just 2-3 feet of extra cable would solve the issue entirely.

@abidemi
It’s not hard to fix. Costco uses sensors to detect if a car is blocking a gas pump. Tesla could just add sensors to detect if a stall is blocked.

@Randy
This is a big deal. One of Tesla’s main advantages was how accurate their stall availability info was. That seems to be going away.

Imani said:
@Randy
This is a big deal. One of Tesla’s main advantages was how accurate their stall availability info was. That seems to be going away.

Tesla’s charging network is going to get worse as more cars use it. It was a big reason why I got a Tesla in the first place, and now it’s not as much of a selling point. I hope this affects their sales.

@Nathan
On the other hand, Tesla is making good money from non-Tesla vehicles charging at full price. Here in Australia, they charge $0.92 AUD ($0.63 USD) per kWh for non-Teslas, which is a 50% markup. This revenue can help fund new supercharger sites.

@Randy
I think so too. There’s a V2 station nearby that’s Tesla-only. If the system recognized blocked spots, people would probably get routed there instead.

Connie said:
@Randy
I think so too. There’s a V2 station nearby that’s Tesla-only. If the system recognized blocked spots, people would probably get routed there instead.

The downside is V2 stations are a lot slower.

@Imani
Yeah, I can see Tesla owners going back to V2 stations because the V3 ones are always packed with non-Tesla EVs.

Connie said:
@Imani
Yeah, I can see Tesla owners going back to V2 stations because the V3 ones are always packed with non-Tesla EVs.

In my area, V2 stations get just as many non-Tesla users as V3 or V4 ones.

Connie said:
@Randy
I think so too. There’s a V2 station nearby that’s Tesla-only. If the system recognized blocked spots, people would probably get routed there instead.

Yep, that’s how it’s supposed to work. But right now, the system doesn’t account for non-Teslas. It should ask if you’re blocking a spot.

@Randy
That’s a smart idea (assuming two stalls are taken when non-Teslas are charging).