What is worse, routinely charging to 90% or routinely driving the battery down to 15%?

I have a 2024 GT-Line and commute 75+ miles each way to work. It typically uses 32-34% of my battery each trip (not thrilled with the efficiency, but that’s another story).

If I charge to the recommended 80% (really 79%), I come home with about 12-15% left. This leaves little room for errands or detours, and I’ve read that regularly driving the battery under 20% isn’t good either.

I like having the extra buffer by charging to 90%, but I also want this car to last well over 100K miles, so I’m worried about long-term battery life.

What do you all think? What’s the better option?

If you charge right before your commute, charging to 90% shouldn’t be a big deal. I’d go with that.

Check out Engineering Explained on YouTube. They do a great job simplifying studies on NMC batteries. Based on your use case, you might want to watch and decide. Here’s a good video on the topic: Engineering Explained - NMC Battery.

Randy said:
Check out Engineering Explained on YouTube. They do a great job simplifying studies on NMC batteries. Based on your use case, you might want to watch and decide. Here’s a good video on the topic: Engineering Explained - NMC Battery.

Thanks for the link! I was already aware of not charging to 100% all the time, but I used to wait until the battery dropped below 30% before charging. Now I’ll probably start charging daily at 75%.

Amelia said:

Randy said:
Check out Engineering Explained on YouTube. They do a great job simplifying studies on NMC batteries. Based on your use case, you might want to watch and decide. Here’s a good video on the topic: Engineering Explained - NMC Battery.

Thanks for the link! I was already aware of not charging to 100% all the time, but I used to wait until the battery dropped below 30% before charging. Now I’ll probably start charging daily at 75%.

I work in spacecraft design and know a lot about Li-ion cells. Battery degradation is non-linear, so smaller discharge cycles (charging before the battery drops too low) reduce wear. In theory, the less you discharge between charges, the better the battery health over time.

Honestly, you could charge to 100% if you schedule it so the car doesn’t sit at that level overnight. If you leave right when it hits 100%, it’s fine.

Christopher said:
Honestly, you could charge to 100% if you schedule it so the car doesn’t sit at that level overnight. If you leave right when it hits 100%, it’s fine.

We’ve had our EV6 for almost 3 years, and we charge it to 100% at home when it gets below 100 miles of range. We’ve done 30K miles with no noticeable range degradation, though we do lease, so we’re not too worried.

After almost a year and 50K miles, my EV6’s battery has only degraded by 0.5%, and I fast charge to 100% daily at public chargers. Don’t stress too much about how you charge it; the car can handle it.

I charged my previous EV (Kona Electric) to 100% every time, and it lasted over 100K miles with no issues. I now charge my EV6 to 90% regularly, and 100% on road trips. Charging to 90% should be fine and gives you more flexibility.

Imani said:
I charged my previous EV (Kona Electric) to 100% every time, and it lasted over 100K miles with no issues. I now charge my EV6 to 90% regularly, and 100% on road trips. Charging to 90% should be fine and gives you more flexibility.

If you can charge every day, 260 miles at 80% should give you plenty of wiggle room.

Robert said:
I have a 2024 GT-Line and commute 75+ miles each way to work. It typically uses 32-34% of my battery each trip (not thrilled with the efficiency, but that’s another story).

If I charge to the recommended 80% (really 79%), I come home with about 12-15% left. This leaves little room for errands or detours, and I’ve read that regularly driving the battery under 20% isn’t good either.

I like having the extra buffer by charging to 90%, but I also want this car to last well over 100K miles, so I’m worried about long-term battery life.

What do you all think? What’s the better option?

I regularly charge to 90%, and the manual even recommends charging to 100% once a month. From what I’ve seen, charging to full and then using the battery right away is better than running it low all the time. With the EV6’s good thermal management, degradation is going to be minimal over 100K miles.

Kenneth said:

Robert said:
I have a 2024 GT-Line and commute 75+ miles each way to work. It typically uses 32-34% of my battery each trip (not thrilled with the efficiency, but that’s another story).

If I charge to the recommended 80% (really 79%), I come home with about 12-15% left. This leaves little room for errands or detours, and I’ve read that regularly driving the battery under 20% isn’t good either.

I like having the extra buffer by charging to 90%, but I also want this car to last well over 100K miles, so I’m worried about long-term battery life.

What do you all think? What’s the better option?

I regularly charge to 90%, and the manual even recommends charging to 100% once a month. From what I’ve seen, charging to full and then using the battery right away is better than running it low all the time. With the EV6’s good thermal management, degradation is going to be minimal over 100K miles.

Charging to 100% once a month helps recalibrate the battery management system.

Thomas said:

Kenneth said:
Robert said:
I have a 2024 GT-Line and commute 75+ miles each way to work. It typically uses 32-34% of my battery each trip (not thrilled with the efficiency, but that’s another story).

If I charge to the recommended 80% (really 79%), I come home with about 12-15% left. This leaves little room for errands or detours, and I’ve read that regularly driving the battery under 20% isn’t good either.

I like having the extra buffer by charging to 90%, but I also want this car to last well over 100K miles, so I’m worried about long-term battery life.

What do you all think? What’s the better option?

I regularly charge to 90%, and the manual even recommends charging to 100% once a month. From what I’ve seen, charging to full and then using the battery right away is better than running it low all the time. With the EV6’s good thermal management, degradation is going to be minimal over 100K miles.

Charging to 100% once a month helps recalibrate the battery management system.

Good to know, thanks!

Robert said:
I have a 2024 GT-Line and commute 75+ miles each way to work. It typically uses 32-34% of my battery each trip (not thrilled with the efficiency, but that’s another story).

If I charge to the recommended 80% (really 79%), I come home with about 12-15% left. This leaves little room for errands or detours, and I’ve read that regularly driving the battery under 20% isn’t good either.

I like having the extra buffer by charging to 90%, but I also want this car to last well over 100K miles, so I’m worried about long-term battery life.

What do you all think? What’s the better option?

Neither option is really bad. Just drive the car!

izael said:

Robert said:
I have a 2024 GT-Line and commute 75+ miles each way to work. It typically uses 32-34% of my battery each trip (not thrilled with the efficiency, but that’s another story).

If I charge to the recommended 80% (really 79%), I come home with about 12-15% left. This leaves little room for errands or detours, and I’ve read that regularly driving the battery under 20% isn’t good either.

I like having the extra buffer by charging to 90%, but I also want this car to last well over 100K miles, so I’m worried about long-term battery life.

What do you all think? What’s the better option?

Neither option is really bad. Just drive the car!

:clap:

Robert said:
I have a 2024 GT-Line and commute 75+ miles each way to work. It typically uses 32-34% of my battery each trip (not thrilled with the efficiency, but that’s another story).

If I charge to the recommended 80% (really 79%), I come home with about 12-15% left. This leaves little room for errands or detours, and I’ve read that regularly driving the battery under 20% isn’t good either.

I like having the extra buffer by charging to 90%, but I also want this car to last well over 100K miles, so I’m worried about long-term battery life.

What do you all think? What’s the better option?

Charging to 100% is fine as long as you don’t let it sit at full charge for too long. Similarly, driving down to 10-15% occasionally isn’t an issue. After 100K miles, you might see 12% degradation instead of 10%. It’s really not a big deal.

Robert said:
I have a 2024 GT-Line and commute 75+ miles each way to work. It typically uses 32-34% of my battery each trip (not thrilled with the efficiency, but that’s another story).

If I charge to the recommended 80% (really 79%), I come home with about 12-15% left. This leaves little room for errands or detours, and I’ve read that regularly driving the battery under 20% isn’t good either.

I like having the extra buffer by charging to 90%, but I also want this car to last well over 100K miles, so I’m worried about long-term battery life.

What do you all think? What’s the better option?

I have 71K miles on my 2022 GT-Line AWD. I charge to 100% every night and drive about 140 miles a day, mostly highway. We tested for degradation at 60K miles and found none. I haven’t done the ICCU recall software update because I’ve heard too many bad stories, but I haven’t had any major issues.

Robert said:
I have a 2024 GT-Line and commute 75+ miles each way to work. It typically uses 32-34% of my battery each trip (not thrilled with the efficiency, but that’s another story).

If I charge to the recommended 80% (really 79%), I come home with about 12-15% left. This leaves little room for errands or detours, and I’ve read that regularly driving the battery under 20% isn’t good either.

I like having the extra buffer by charging to 90%, but I also want this car to last well over 100K miles, so I’m worried about long-term battery life.

What do you all think? What’s the better option?

Check out Engineering Explained’s video on battery charging. For NMC batteries like in the EV6, here are a few tips:

  1. The optimal charge and discharge levels are small cycles, ideally between 40-60%. This minimizes stress on the battery.
  2. Charging to 100% once in a while helps recalibrate the system since it can struggle to detect the exact charge level.
  3. If you need to store the car, do so with around 30% charge.

Here’s the full video: YouTube - Engineering Explained.

emma said:

Robert said:
I have a 2024 GT-Line and commute 75+ miles each way to work. It typically uses 32-34% of my battery each trip (not thrilled with the efficiency, but that’s another story).

If I charge to the recommended 80% (really 79%), I come home with about 12-15% left. This leaves little room for errands or detours, and I’ve read that regularly driving the battery under 20% isn’t good either.

I like having the extra buffer by charging to 90%, but I also want this car to last well over 100K miles, so I’m worried about long-term battery life.

What do you all think? What’s the better option?

Check out Engineering Explained’s video on battery charging. For NMC batteries like in the EV6, here are a few tips:

  1. The optimal charge and discharge levels are small cycles, ideally between 40-60%. This minimizes stress on the battery.
  2. Charging to 100% once in a while helps recalibrate the system since it can struggle to detect the exact charge level.
  3. If you need to store the car, do so with around 30% charge.

Here’s the full video: YouTube - Engineering Explained.

I appreciate the response, but realistically, I can’t charge between 60-40% with my daily driving needs.

Robert said:

emma said:
Robert said:
I have a 2024 GT-Line and commute 75+ miles each way to work. It typically uses 32-34% of my battery each trip (not thrilled with the efficiency, but that’s another story).

If I charge to the recommended 80% (really 79%), I come home with about 12-15% left. This leaves little room for errands or detours, and I’ve read that regularly driving the battery under 20% isn’t good either.

I like having the extra buffer by charging to 90%, but I also want this car to last well over 100K miles, so I’m worried about long-term battery life.

What do you all think? What’s the better option?

Check out Engineering Explained’s video on battery charging. For NMC batteries like in the EV6, here are a few tips:

  1. The optimal charge and discharge levels are small cycles, ideally between 40-60%. This minimizes stress on the battery.
  2. Charging to 100% once in a while helps recalibrate the system since it can struggle to detect the exact charge level.
  3. If you need to store the car, do so with around 30% charge.

Here’s the full video: YouTube - Engineering Explained.

I appreciate the response, but realistically, I can’t charge between 60-40% with my daily driving needs.

Totally understandable. It’s hard to stick to the ‘ideal’ range in real life. In the end, the manufacturer should provide a durable battery, so you shouldn’t have to worry too much.